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Daito同学的最新探索

Daito Manabe   真锅大度,媒体艺术家同时也是程序员和设计师
Yang Tao 杨韬,媒体艺术家同时也是作曲和程序员

翻译:丁燕萍 www.bjartlab.com
校对:杨韬

Y=Yangtao D= Daito

y: 什么时候你开始从一名 hiphop dj (dj:hiphop 音乐中的负责通过演奏黑胶唱机来混合音乐)转为到使用 MaxMsp    (一个数字艺术家们常用模块化的声音和图像的编程软件环境)?

d: 那时我23岁。我在一个很大的日本公司担任系统工程师,然后发现了 MaxMSP。

y: 我看了你很多视频发现你在早期和相当多的著名的 mc (mc:hiphop 音乐中的说唱歌手)合作,并知道你的撮盘技术也很高超,但是今天你成为了一个new media 艺术家。什么促成这样的转变?


作为dj的Daito在表演时使用wii作为控制器 同伴在使用NDS游戏机作为视频控制器

d:当我20岁的时候,我发现我既不是天才型的DJ也不是创作型的DJ。我试图寻找自己的方式但我没有找到,于是我在21岁的时候结束了我的DJ生涯,开始组建爵士乐团。(注:这个乐队名为Shiinaband,是日本知名的Jazzy Hip Hop 乐队。Jazzy Hip Hop是一种将jazz音乐和hiphop节奏混合风格的音乐) 我担任制作人和搓碟手。我从一个乐队成员身上学到了很多,他是贝司手 Tatsuto Shiina 。后来我开始跟一些 MC一起工作,但是那也不是我的风格。因为嘻哈音乐不适合日本人听。

大学毕业以后,我开始为一家很有名的日本电脑公司工作,担任系统工程师并学习编程。我的工作就是利用网络为安全系统控制一个类似摄像机的设备。我掌握了一些媒体艺术的技术,然后就离开了这家公司。后来我去了 IAMAS (情报科学艺术大学)学习媒体艺术而不是编程。

y: 我注意到  http://www.rhizomatiks.com/这个网站是你建立的一个商业设计团队。你能否告诉我这个团队是怎么建立的,还有你们如何一起工作的?

d:事实上我们是老朋友。从18岁就彼此认识了。

y:是一个纯商业的团队还是一个在商业和艺术之间保持平衡的团队?

d:我们能在自己的公司搞艺术。对我们来说搞艺术很重要。因为如果我们只做商业作品就很容易失掉创造性。

y:日本有与你们相似的团队么?

d:没有。

y: 你去年在北京待过一阵子。那时你甚至在卡拉OK都工作得很卖力,我发现你对专业相当认真。现在有很多艺术学校的学生在学 MaxMSP,作为 MaxMSP 的专业人士,你能不能告诉他们一些学习方面的技巧?

d:Cycling74 (MaxMsp 的研发公司)的范例和教程都挺不错的。我几乎就是根据这些资料学会全部内容的。比如,granularized.maxpat ModSquad.maxpat image-to-spectral_filter gl_fft~.maxpat 都是非常复杂的 patch(patch指编程软件中的一段可执行的代码),但我们能从里面学会很多东西。


y: 你的 肌电感应器 真的很神奇!我知道你是为了表现人类面部表情甚至是舌头的运动才研发这个技术。你扩充了肌电感应器的对象,也更新了肌电感应器自身。你坚持这个计划有多久了?为什么?你一直以来关注这个领域最主要目的是什么?

这个肌电感应器是由Masaki Teruoka研发的。对我来讲最有趣的部分是它的交互性。

当我移动我的手,声音会在手移动之前就响起来。


y:我听过你的dj 的现场表演发现你演奏的是非常电子化的post hiphop类型的音乐,你喜爱的音乐家是谁 清列出你这个月听的最多的5个音乐家的名单 。


d:Martyn,Flying Lotus,Dartriix,Jay Dee

y: Masayuki Akamatsu 是MaxMSP在日本最著名的推广者。你跟他学习了多久,你学到了什么?我将会在上海的电子艺术节上见到他,真的很有意思。所以多谈谈你们俩的事吧。

d:我在 IAMAS (情报科学艺术大学)的时候他帮了我很多忙。
我跟他学习了2年。我总是问他“这有没有可能实现?”之类的问题,但有时我也教他点儿数学。


y:你的狗很可爱它多大了?

d:它就快9岁了。

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y:From when you moved your attention to MaxMSP as you used to be a hip-hop DJ?

d:When I was 23 years old.
I worked for a very huge Japanese company as an system engineer
and found MaxMSP .

y:I go through most of your videos. I found that you cooperate with lots
of famous mc in your early years. I found your scratching technical
are pretty nice too. And there are lots of good hip-hop DJ here in
Japan. Now you work as a new media artist, what kind of transit in
your growing?

d:When I was 20 years old , I figured out I was not talented DJ nor original DJ.
I tried to find my own way but I could not find it and
I quit my DJ carrier when I was 21 years old and started Jazzband.
I did producing and scratch. I studied a lot from a member of the band
mainly a bassist  Tatsuto Shiina.

Then I started working with some MC but it was not my style.
Because Hiphop is not for Japanese people.

After graduate the university , I started to work for a very famous Japanese
computer company as an system engineer and learn programming.
What I did in the company was control a device such as a camera with
using network for a security system. I have gotten skill for media art
and quit a company,
then went to IAMAS for studying media art not to study programming.

y: I notice the website http://www.rhizomatiks.com/. Could you let me
know how the team was built up and how you guys work together?

d:Actually we are old friend. We know each other from 18 years old.


y: Is it a purely working-for-commercial team or a team that keeping
balance between commercial and fine art?

d:We can do art stuff in our company.
It is important for us to do art stuff.

Because if we do only commercial works
It is easy to lose creativity.

y: Are there a lot of familiar groups here in Japan?
d: No.

y: You've been in Beijing for a short visit last year. At that time you
were working hard even in Karaoke so that I found you admirable
serious on your profession. Now we have lots of student of MaxMSP in
art schools, could you give them some special skill of the learning as
you are such a famous MaxMSP expert?

The example and turorial of Cycling74 are great.
I learned almost all from them.
For example,
granularized.maxpat
ModSquad.maxpat
image-to-spectral_filter
gl_fft~.maxpat
are very complicated patch but
we can learn a lot from them.


y: Your myoelectric sensor is really amazing. I realize that you develop
this technique to the human facial expressions even the movement of
tongue. You enlarge the object of the myoelectric sensor and renew its
being. How long have you sustained this project and why you sustain
it? What's your main purpose of keeping an eye on this area?

d: It is developed by Masaki Teruoka.
The most interesting point for me
is the interaction .
With my system(which is uploaded on youtube),
when I move hand , sound comes out before hand move.



y:I've listened your live recording of your DJ performance and found it
as the kinds of post hip-hop style. Who is (are) your favorite
musician(s)? Please list your top five most-listen musicians of this
month.

d: Martyn
Flying Lotus
Dartriix
Jay Dee

y:Masayuki Akamatsu is the most famous MaxMSP prompter in Japan. How
long have you learnt with him and what kind of influence did you get
from him? It's really interested that I will meet him in Shanghai
eArts Festival and let us know more between you and him.

d:He helped me a lot when I was in IAMAS .
I learned with him for 2 years.
I always ask him like "Is it possible to make it happen ?"
But sometimes I taught him mathematics.



y: You have a really cute doggy. How old is it?
d:She is almost 9 years!!




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flyherro
2008/11/25 20:07
reserch out...
mabao
2008/11/25 18:35
nice
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